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Summer2000
post Oct 30 2009, 12:30 PM
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I'm also having trouble locating time functions in the manual. How do insert time between ranges. Same goes for cutting time, pasting, duplicating, and deleting. Thanks.

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post Nov 5 2009, 08:09 PM
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Hi -
I'm still looking for answer on this. Is it that these functions can't be done in Samp 11 or no one here knows how?

Someone please point in the right direction if you know the answer.

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post Nov 6 2009, 01:31 AM
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Menu "Edit" > "Insert Silence..." inserts silence globally in the current range.

Menu "Edit" > "More..." > "Delete with Ripple" removes the range from the VIP.

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post Nov 6 2009, 05:29 AM
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QUOTE (FrankProposch @ Nov 6 2009, 01:31 AM) *
Menu "Edit" > "Insert Silence..." inserts silence globally in the current range.

Menu "Edit" > "More..." > "Delete with Ripple" removes the range from the VIP.

Greetings,

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Hi Frank,
Thanks for replying. I'll try it when I'm back in the studio.

One more question, Is it possible to dupilicate time for a selected range instead of having to first insert silence and then select and duplicate objects? In Ableton Live, you can select a range via loop and then duplicate that time. This method is nice and easy and super fast. Can this be done in Samp 11?

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post Nov 6 2009, 05:54 AM
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Menu "Objects" > "Cut Objects..." > "Duplicate Object multiple..."

In that dialog you can specify the length of the duplication range, either in beats, samples, time, ...
Unfortunately, pre-configuring this setting with an active VIP range doesn't work.

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Hi Frank,
I tried the methods that you mentioned but I still can't figure out how to duplicate a range of time (not just a selected object) and be able to paste those objects in the timeline without over writing any objects in the destination space. So for this to work properly means that I should be able to select the loop, copy it, blank space for that time should be created automatically for where the range will be pasted as not over write anything, and paste the selected range there.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. Anyone who has used the duplicate time function in Ableton should know exactly what I'm talking about.

Kraznet - if you're reading this, I hope you will be so kind and put up a video demonstrating how to duplicate range. Maybe I'm doing something wrong and don't fully understand how this works in Samplitude.

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post Nov 8 2009, 03:16 PM
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Kraznet - if you're reading this, I hope you will be so kind and put up a video demonstrating how to duplicate range. Maybe I'm doing something wrong and don't fully understand how this works in Samplitude.


I'll have a look at it Summer .

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post Nov 9 2009, 12:55 AM
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You can use copy&paste with ripple turned on.

Sequoia also has many options with multi-point cut editing.
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QUOTE (FrankProposch @ Nov 9 2009, 12:55 AM) *
You can use copy&paste with ripple turned on.

Sequoia also has many options with multi-point cut editing.


Hi Frank,
Copy object & paste with ripple is half the answer. With that function you still have to manually select each object within a range. I work with 40+ tracks in my projects so you can imagine my pain. I want to be able to select all objects automatically within a range/loop before carrying on copy and paste. Is there a way to select all objects within a given range/loop in Samp 11?

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post Nov 9 2009, 04:29 PM
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Hi Summer ,
I've done a quick video which hopefully will give you the workflow your looking for . The sound quality is a bit rough as it did at midnight . I'll do a better version when I get time .

Attached File  PasteTimeRipple.wmv ( 44.81MB ) Number of downloads: 20


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QUOTE (Kraznet @ Nov 9 2009, 04:29 PM) *
Hi Summer ,
I've done a quick video which hopefully will give you the workflow your looking for . The sound quality is a bit rough as it did at midnight . I'll do a better version when I get time .

Attached File  PasteTimeRipple.wmv ( 44.81MB ) Number of downloads: 20


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That video was perfect Kraz! I didn't know I could double click on the range to select all objects. That's exactly what I was trying to accomplish. I gotta tell you man, because of your videos I'm liking Samp more and more every day. I appreciate you taking the time to make that video. You should definitely add it to the tutorials section as I'm sure it'll help others who may have the same questions.

Thanks to you too Frank! You tried to explain it to me but it was over my head. I'm more of a visual learner I guess. smile.gif

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post Nov 10 2009, 09:04 AM
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Thanks so much for the video Kraznet. Extremeley helpful!! Do you have any more videos by chance? And what software are you using to make that video?

Maybe you and me can team up Summer laugh.gif , I'm coming from Ableton Live as well, and I got all the same questions you do it seems. I've tried every single program out there, and none of them behave or function like Ableton does in the arrange view.. They got everything right as far as editing goes, and when you jump into another program its soo freakin painful to try to work around the speed and elegant layout of Abletons Arrange view when dealing with clips.. BUT, as we both know, it's missing alot of techincal audio tools and features/functions. Ableton and Samplitude together though = The Ultimate Experience.

I have a couple questions as well..

1. When i click in the timeline and try and make selection, the playhead jumps to that section.. So annoying.. cant figure out how to turn it off. Looked in the playback options, general options.. coming up with nothing. *fingers crossed for the option*

2. Also, is there way to import a bunch of audio tracks from a folder and have them end up on there own tracks when importing? Ive tried dragging and dropping, and while it works, it just opens them all in a wave editing window, instead of dropping them all onto their own tracks. Ive tried all the import audio functions and they seem to be reacting the same way. Any tips?

I have a few more, but i suppose i should start my own thread and not jack this one.. I apologize.

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post Nov 10 2009, 09:32 AM
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hi,

1- Options > System > General > Play Cursor Independent of Range

2 - options in Import dialog : Load files to different tracks

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post Nov 10 2009, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE (Philw @ Nov 10 2009, 09:32 AM) *
hi,

1- Options > System > General > Play Cursor Independent of Range

2 - options in Import dialog : Load files to different tracks

cheers
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I must be blind.. Haha!! I swear I looked at the general options about 20 times for this and it never dawned on me. You da man!!
Thank you

I was blind again, i didnt notice the "options" button in the File > Load/Import menu.. and that is where the feature is..

Thank you so much Phil!!! Really appreciate it! You guys are great around here! smile.gif


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post Nov 10 2009, 10:09 AM
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I guess I got slighty too excited for a second there. tongue.gif

Strange, the option to load to new tracks only works if you already have the tracks setup. If you try to this same thing in a blank session, it just loads them in wave editing windows again. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but its better then nothing I guess.

And for some reason, that playhead option isnt working at all. Where ever i click, either on the timeline, or on the actual object/wav, it moves the playhead to that spot. I'll be playing back the track, go to highlight a different section, and then bam, now its playing back from where im trying to select. Its making me mental. blink.gif Ive tried setting the option and then closing the program and reopneing, but nothing seems any different. Still jumps to where ever i try to select. Am I missing something?

Thanks again for the help!


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QUOTE (superpopmix @ Nov 10 2009, 07:09 PM) *
And for some reason, that playhead option isnt working at all. Where ever i click, either on the timeline, or on the actual object/wav, it moves the playhead to that spot. I'll be playing back the track, go to highlight a different section, and then bam, now its playing back from where im trying to select. Its making me mental. blink.gif Ive tried setting the option and then closing the program and reopneing, but nothing seems any different. Still jumps to where ever i try to select. Am I missing something?


So the problem is that if you drag a range at the timeline (or directly on an object), the cursor will actually be hidden at the beginning of the range (i.e. if you delete the range or start playback you'll see the cursor at a position where you do NOT want it). But if you in this situation press 'BACKSPACE' once, the playback-cursor will jump back to your original position.

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Hi Superpopmix ,
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Strange, the option to load to new tracks only works if you already have the tracks setup. If you try to this same thing in a blank session, it just loads them in wave editing windows again. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but its better then nothing I guess.

You need to create a fresh VIP before you can load the tracks into it. If you try to load them into the blank window they will by default open as separate wave projects. I don't use Ableton Live but just downloaded the demo and I couldn't load multiple wave files or drag-and-drop them from the browser so I'm not sure what's going on there.

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And for some reason, that playhead option isnt working at all. Where ever i click, either on the timeline, or on the actual object/wav, it moves the playhead to that spot. I'll be playing back the track, go to highlight a different section, and then bam, now its playing back from where im trying to select. Its making me mental. blink.gif Ive tried setting the option and then closing the program and reopneing, but nothing seems any different. Still jumps to where ever i try to select. Am I missing something?

Phil was right there is a setting called "play cursor independent of range" but the name is slightly misleading because even with that setting the play cursor is never completely independent of the range unfortunately.This means that whenever you draw in a new range in the grid and marker bar the play cursor will always jump to that position. The reason it's happening when you select an object as well is probably something to do with the mouse mode you are using. Samplitude has several mouse modes. Using Object Mouse Mode will allow you to select objects without it affecting the play cursor. Universal Mouse Mode is like a dual purpose mouse mode . This means that using it in the top half of the object will allow you to draw in a range of position the play cursor. Using it in the bottom half of the object will select the object .It is my preferred mouse mode although it does take some time to get used to it.

I have made quite a few videos and you can find them at www.youtube.com/kraznet There is one there which shows you more about the different mouse modes.I use a combination of Camtasia studio and Sequoia/Video Pro X for making the videos.

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QUOTE (Kraznet @ Nov 10 2009, 12:03 PM) *
Hi Superpopmix ,
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Strange, the option to load to new tracks only works if you already have the tracks setup. If you try to this same thing in a blank session, it just loads them in wave editing windows again. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but its better then nothing I guess.

You need to create a fresh VIP before you can load the tracks into it. If you try to load them into the blank window they will by default open as separate wave projects. I don't use Ableton Live but just downloaded the demo and I couldn't load multiple wave files or drag-and-drop them from the browser so I'm not sure what's going on there.

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And for some reason, that playhead option isnt working at all. Where ever i click, either on the timeline, or on the actual object/wav, it moves the playhead to that spot. I'll be playing back the track, go to highlight a different section, and then bam, now its playing back from where im trying to select. Its making me mental. blink.gif Ive tried setting the option and then closing the program and reopneing, but nothing seems any different. Still jumps to where ever i try to select. Am I missing something?

Phil was right there is a setting called "play cursor independent of range" but the name is slightly misleading because even with that setting the play cursor is never completely independent of the range unfortunately.This means that whenever you draw in a new range in the grid and marker bar the play cursor will always jump to that position. The reason it's happening when you select an object as well is probably something to do with the mouse mode you are using. Samplitude has several mouse modes. Using Object Mouse Mode will allow you to select objects without it affecting the play cursor. Universal Mouse Mode is like a dual purpose mouse mode . This means that using it in the top half of the object will allow you to draw in a range of position the play cursor. Using it in the bottom half of the object will select the object .It is my preferred mouse mode although it does take some time to get used to it.

I have made quite a few videos and you can find them at www.youtube.com/kraznet There is one there which shows you more about the different mouse modes.I use a combination of Camtasia studio and Sequoia/Video Pro X for making the videos.

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Thanks so much to all of you for the responses.

Kraznet,

Regarding Ableton Live and dragging tracks in - You are right, this cannot be done in Ableton, and this is just one of the small features, or lack there of, that has made me start looking elsewhere for more professional tools for different recording/editing situations (mostly when working with bands). In ableton, when you drag tracks in, it just lines them up back-to-back on the same track, kinda stupid really.. I guess in my mind, when i asked the question, i was thinking of the way that Reaper allows for dragging from a folder into a completely blank session, and dumps all the files on new tracks.. The way they have it setup is very nice and user friendly.. But I much prefer samplitude as far as a program goes, so thats why im eager to find these same sort of settings here.

And about the playback mode - I see now that it just doesnt work the way im expecting it too. I understand the mouse modes, i just thought that i was able to select somewhere else without always having the playback cursor jump to that spot EVERYTIME. ISnt that pretty basic? Every program i can think of can behave this way through options. Thats really going to take some getting used too. I'm just used to selecting a section somehere while playback is still going, and not having it jump to where i just clicked in the middle of playback.

Yeah, I did some exploring around the site and found some videos you have done. Very nice stuff, I've downloaded all of them and they have been a great help in clearing up a few questions ive had. Kudos for making them and sharing with the others. Love to see you do one on the Audio Quantizing Wizard. While, its fairly straight foward in use, it would be nice to get some veteran style tips and tricks for quickly editing markers and adjusting the gaps, and slices for more accurate results.

In anycase, thank you again smile.gif

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